they have 600 point in market share and additionally look down in south america, which has been weak. sales down 1%, pulling way away from kamatsu. i want to look at what they are doing in north america and say, there is a dramatic spring back -- >> i want to take this right to stephanie link. steph, who made the favorable market here? >> well, we own it so i would say what joe would say. last quarter speaks to this company on cost and getting pricing where they can. comins just raised prices on pow g /* power gen equipment today. now at 88, $89, we were buying in low 80s. should they lower those numbers, those numbers are the trough and that's when you buy. >> i don't love cat the stock, i love cat the company. but i've got say, if the overall market makes a big move higher and there a global growth margin, steve may be right on benefiting deals. i think i have to go with joe even though i respect steve's research on the name because he does make some important point there. >> all right. case is closed on cat. >>> coming up on halftime, our traders aren't always right. er with learni